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knight kt · Jul 12, 2006, 10:09 AM // 10:09

lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one.

Dr Strangelove · Jul 12, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by knight kt

lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one.

Well, if you were planning to charge someone 2k to cap a skill (which is ridiculous by the way, you don't have to do anything for that) then you should probably have mentioned that along with the price of the run.

Suggested trade spam: Rushing mission, 5k +2k for every cap sig you have on your bar.

The Herbalizer · Jul 12, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by knight kt

lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one.

Seeing as you have a video and screenshots which you will send to anet can you post them (with names blurred out) of you saying you were offering capping aswell. If you were spamming you are doing it for 5k that is your price not 7k. If I was the op and the mission rusher was being an idiot and was not willing to charge what he has everyone else I too would leave the mission. Anet wont ban over something so dumb and rediculous. OMG I TRIED TO CHARGE HIM MORE, SO HE LEFT, HE SCAMMED ME!!!!!!!!!!ONE!!!!!!!!!

baz777 · Jul 12, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Why pay at all?

It's an easy mission!

TheMadKingGeorge · Jul 12, 2006, 10:17 AM // 10:17

noones agreeing with the runners i like it i like it

knight kt · Jul 12, 2006, 10:17 AM // 10:17

lol wow i love how u guys just type and type rofl owell i dont even care the movie and ss are gone its over done dead and im laughin so hard dont tell me your goin to give me a ecto for payment then turn around and say well i want 2k back and then dont cap your skill witch is part of the 5k payment and leave with out even payin anything she scamed me im srry u her friends dont see it idc if anet says anything ill just tell them to for get about it god these posts are flipin great ahahahahahaha best laugh all night

paradoxz · Jul 12, 2006, 10:17 AM // 10:17

All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!

We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well....

Run=5k
I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k.
so....Ecto=5k

now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me.

Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner.

I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back.

Azurewrath · Jul 12, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Why should she pay more? She should not.

The charge everyone else paid was 5k why should she pay 2k more? She shouldnt.

You and your partner should have given him/her 2k back but you didnt.

The op wont get banned because the pair of people doing this were incompetant idiots to be perfectly honest.

The op was WANTING to pay exactly what they were charging everyone else but the runners/rushers thought they could scare the op into paying 2k more as they knew he/she could not pay the 5k and only had one ecto.

There is no scam because the rushers were being idiots and would not give 2k over. They set out to complete the mission not help people cap skills. The op left as they were being arses and would not stick to the agreement. The op did not receive the agreed service which was completing thirsty river.

Anet wont ban. The op you did the right thing by leaving although capping the skill is questionable. The person saying they did the mission, you wasted your own time from being a complete idiot. Everyone paid 5k so why the hell are you making someone pay 7k. The answer is you knew they could only pay by the ecto and you could force them into paying 2k more through threats of reporting them.

Edit:

Wow you are clearly lacking intelligence or something? WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE OP PAY 2K MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PARTY? There is no reason why other than you were trying to force him into paying more through threats of reporting him.

Ectos take no time to sell its not like you spend hours spamming to sell them. 5k is actually a pretty nice price. What do you want people to do it for 1k as you said 5k is WAY too much?

Well, I'll tell you upfront that you seem intelligent, but this has dragged you down. I had nothing to deal with in "threatening" anyone into doing anything, I was only the person collecting the money for the run. Had moose spoken up about wanting something in return, it would've turned out different. You may call it a thing of "decency", but we were under the impression that we were being given the ecto for the service with no expectation of an exchange, yet when we get into the run, she speaks of the expectation. We didn't force moose to pay the ecto. When Knight asked for everyone to show money, moose said "can i just pay with ecto" and we agreed; we forced absolutely nothing. With the way we run Thirsty, we include skill capping as part of the whole run. If you want the honest truth, when someone is saying that they're paying for a run, and you say in the middle of it that you weren't in it for a run, just a skill cap, then you're being dishonest to us and taking advantage of us.

knight kt · Jul 12, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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Originally Posted by paradoxz

All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!

We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well....

Run=5k
I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k.
so....Ecto=5k

now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me.

Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner.

I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back.

thx u thats all i got to say

TheMadKingGeorge · Jul 12, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20

hes laughing cos he knows hes wrong all he does is bull shit us capping wasnt part of running as you say running mission for 5k he capped you didnt do mission for him he didnt pay so bye bye

The Herbalizer · Jul 12, 2006, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by paradoxz

All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!

We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well....

Run=5k
I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k.
so....Ecto=5k

now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me.

Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner.

I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back.

If ecto sell to players for around 7k then they would most prob be 8k ish at trader and trader buys back for certainly 5k+. Even if trader pays 5k you could sell it in-town for 100 gold more in seconds. I can sell ecto in towns for 500 gold more than trader buy back price in seconds. The runners did not even attempt to haggle with the op.

When i used to do drok runs if someone suddenly didnt have the 3k I would try and get as much from them possible. The rushers did not attempt to do this at all.

Nexus Icon · Jul 12, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

See, this is why I never run anywhere for cash or pay to get ran anywhere. It just gets nasty.

Besides, isn't it more fun to play the game rather than rush through it or spend all your time running instead of actually playing?

paradoxz · Jul 12, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

So what, the OP is FORCING a price on the RUNNERS, the Runners are the ones offering the service. The OP offered 1 Ecto in Exchange for the Run. Setting an Equal Value of Item to Service. If they hadn't thought about preforming it in that manner to begin with, why would they not have simply 1)exchanged beforehand for gold and paid at mission end or 2)Sold the Ecto to a Third Party before the mission was run 3)Have stated before the run that "Hey can I trade you an ecto for the run and you just give me 2k back?"

All those things are nessasary from the person REQUESTING the service, not from the RUNNER. The Runner is basically running a buisness, and if I'm running a coffee shop, and someone says hey...I'll trade you a 10lbs Chicken for a cup of coffee and say....a $2.99 breakfast....I agree and make everything.....set it down on the table, and then they say...btw...the Chicken is worth $25, so you need to give me $20 back, I would tell them to GET THE HELL OUT!

Dont be dumb....just dont.

knight kt · Jul 12, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

See, this is why I never run anywhere for cash or pay to get ran anywhere. It just gets nasty.

Besides, isn't it more fun to play the game rather than rush through it or spend all your time running instead of actually playing?

so ture man but i offer my service to people that 1 dont have the time or 2 have had problems with groups and jsut want to see it finshed i make cash and over half of it gets given away to my couin or a friend i have a few friends that have helped me in differnt games and so i repay them with this cash that i make i dont really care any more i just dont want to get scamed for something i did i did nothing wrong she agreed to the payment and then tryed to change the agreement after the run was almost over just dont do that to me if she would have said ill give u a ecto but i want 2k back before the run even started everything would have been ok and btw no i dont go see what the trader is sellin and go o im goin to get 100g more thats not me and thats awaste of your time 100g big deal... 2k know what wdf ever i call u a scammer and will keep doin it becouse u took your cap sig after u made up in your mind that u where goin to leave

majoho · Jul 12, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

I have to say it seems like a misuderstanding.

runner: running mission for 5K
OP: can I pay with an ecto
runner: sure

If that is how it went I'm totally agreeing with the runner, UNLESS it was agreed upon that he should give 2K back for the ecto the deal was the ecto for the run - and it doesn't matter if the ecto is worth more or that other people payed less - the deal was ecto for the run.

..again unless the OP explicitly said that he would need 2k back.

I can't really see how this can even be debated, and certainly it's no reason for reporting the runner.

Btw. "running" is retarded

TheMadKingGeorge · Jul 12, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

ectos regulary shoot up to 9 k and peopel will buy them for atleast 7k so of course youwasnt displeased

knight kt · Jul 12, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

and again if she would have said 2k back plz for my ecto np but that was not the agreement stick to your agreement or leave dont use me and go ahead and cap then leave and its kinda funny how people are starting to see wdf im sayin man themadking dont u fell stupid.. ahahaha

Raxxman · Jul 12, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

arguing over 2k of game money is retarded.

Gli · Jul 12, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

If the OP offered to pay an ecto and that was agreed upon, he should pay the damn ecto. It's not rocket science.

If you think an ecto is too much, don't offer an ecto.

paradoxz · Jul 12, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Its not the money really to me, its the point of the matter really. Runners get screwed and everyone jumps on a bandwagon calling the runners 'greedy' ect...they are offering a service to people that request it, and some of those people are jerks. Its jacked of them to try and change the deal at the moment of payment.